2005 Vieux Château Certan

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Community Tasting Notes (71) Avg Score: 94.2 points

  • Needs another 5 years. After 4 hours still tight. No flaw but does not fit the profile of vcc. Odd.

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  • Lovely, soft plummy notes with leather chair, slight spice box; supple, full, seamless; expansive in the mouth with good tang in the finish. Excellent shape, would have been nice to give it 5-10 more years but still enjoyable. T-day at Bri's.

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  • Still taken very early. Balance perfect. Cool and mellow tannins. Served to french pigions.

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  • Almost creamy on the nose - red and dark fruit notes, spices, tobacco. Quite layered and expressive after some time in the glass. On the palate at first quite restrained and firm. Elegant and well balanced, lovely acidity, tons of fruit covering the still very noticeable tannins. A little too young still, but not unapproachable. Powerful, vibrant finish with exceptional length. Keep. 96-98

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  • Moving forward seamlessly and gradually, this is already a top notch Pomerol, and possibly a contender for the greatest VCC of all time. It is in the earlier stages of its drinking window, but with sufficient aeration, it really comes alive; this had 7 hours in the decanter, and agitated periodically in the glass for an hour thereafter, and it nailed it. (The lengths you have to go to when you are in your mid 60s, and want to enjoy your cellar without an intravenous drip!). The nose initially is primary, but eventually burst into life with ripe cherry, plum, cedar, chocolate, and graphite, and wonderful tell tale floral wafts. The palate is silky, but with sufficient bite to give a perfect balance. The finish is subtle, but is out of this world and keeps building and pushes towards 90+ seconds. This should deliver another point or two over the next decade, but at present the tannin is an initial distraction on the palate and finish.

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  • Lovely when opened, but really needed an hour or two to open up, as you’d expect, but what a transition… motor oil smoothness soothed my rusty pistons. Gorgeous deep dark delicous fruit, perfectly balanced, with great depth. Just a fantastic wine, with plenty of life left.

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  • 13.5% ABV. Deep ruby appearance with hints of garnet at the rim. Relatively youthful appearance for an 18 year old. Glass decanted for 30 min.

    Upon first whiff, I’m immediately swept off my feet by a very floral-infused nose of violets and lavender. Underneath this flower garden is a bouquet of cassis, blackberry, black plum, dark chocolate, anise, graphite, sprinkle of meat, and freshly tilled earth, which lingers persistently on the finish. Medium density on the palate with a supremely plush and silky mouthfeel. The mouth-coating tannins are fine-grained, but still on its way to full resolution (or I probably just lack patience and it just needs a longer/proper decant). Alcohol is well integrated and acidity is vibrant at perfect levels.

    This is a fantastic effort from VCC and I’m looking forward to following my other ‘05s for years to come. An absolute pleasure to drink now, but this will have a long life and not close to its peak powers yet. 96+ today.

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  • Dekantert. Ikke bra, ikke kork eller oksidert. Ekstremt dårlig flaske. Vent 1 år med neste. I sausen.

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  • Very seductive wine (although not my preferred style). Approachable, rich, blackberry, plum, some earth. This will live for a long time still.

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  • Lucky to have tasted this, opened by a good friend at dinner. Approachable and even enjoyable at this stage but this has got a long life ahead. If you are patient, recommend to wait at least til 2025-28 to try a bottle, let the tannins resolve a bit further, more evolution to take place, the fruit shouldn’t be a problem. Patience!

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  • I’m very excited as this is the first from a case, and wow what a fantastic wine. Took an hour or so to open up, the kimono revealed red fruit treasures and a bit of funk, and at two hours whoa, park the bus. Fantastic dark brawny delicious liquid silk. It’s that moment we all look for. How can this be we exclaimed. Nature at its finest.

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  • Bordeaux tasting - with a few pirates: Both the 2010 and 2005 VCC were bumping ‘We Got the Funk’ more than any of the other wines at the table. Not surprisingly, this 2005 carried a greater display of the heady old world profile over the 2010. The visual alone let you know it has some age on it, with some bricking on the rim and a red-orange hue encompassing the darker red cherry center. On the palate, leather, red currant, chicken skin, cedar, and plum notes make for a medium-bodied delivery, finishing slightly horizontal and hushed. I did find a hovering complexity here, one that really took well to the fare that I kept munching on throughout the tasting (I know, bad taster). This wine and the cassoulet were beautiful together. Also, the freshness on this wine was not sleepy-eyed by any means and stayed relatively consistent throughout the evening. Can it age further? Sure, but that my friend depends wholly on your stylistic predilection for “younger” or “older” wines.

    I know there is a fair amount of BDX folks that, 1.) frown on me using the acronym-ish “BDX” reference in the first place, and 2.) think that there is no such thing as a top BDX (ya, I’ll keep doin’ it) whose cork should be pulled inside 25 years. For both of those things, I’ll just say that ain’t me. If you won’t lose your sanity at the thought of drinking a VCC before it’s 20th birthday, then I say drink this ’05 now. If you’re waiting for it to turn into a tawny port pumpkin, then hold for another 3,650 days.

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  • Bordeaux tasting with some Napa outsiders (The Embrace of Silence): Aromas of deep cranberry notes, a nice barnyard funk, wet tree bark, damp earth and autumn leaves.

    A soft subtle spice on the palate, soft red fruits, a bit of mushroom, soft graphite, bitter minerals, forest floor and dried wood.

    I enjoyed the freshness of this compared to its younger sibling that came off as more dark.

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  • Wine: the Gathering Old World, Bordeaux (Château de Chris et Melissa): 17 year old VCC…alright let’s see what this is about. This had the most funk of all the wines tonight, but it wasn’t a bad funk. In fact, I kind of liked the barnyard profile on the nose. Mushrooms, decomposing hay, a bit of old leather boot.

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  • Bordeaux and Beyond (The csimm_M Estate): A generous bring from Bryan and Kamryn to CS’s Grand BDX tasting. On the nose and palate, oodles of funk and wet earth, dried florals, black cherries, currants, cassis and plums, chocolate, tobacco, and green leafiness. Reddish brown, medium-full bodied, thick legs. Medium+ tannins which I found better integrated than several recent writers, medium acidity, no heat. Excellent complexity, VG+ intensity and persistence. Very classic BDX, at least in the mind of this irregular BDX drinker, with a lovely and sophisticated funkiness and savoriness but fruit which was findable without an electron microscope. The spine is strong here, promising a long, and possibly happier life, but for my palate, and without knowing the givers’ decanting hygiene here, this is good to go, with plenty of structure to excel with food, especially our cassoulet and rack of lamb, but also quite great as a standalone. Didn’t have quite the purity of fruit to equal the Angelus on this night for me, but a dead heat with the ‘96 Las Cases for second in the BDX category. 95-96+

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  • This was toward the bottom of the pack amongst stiff competition from other right banks tonight. Stylistically the only one to compare it to was the '00 Pavie, and the Pavie was clearly superior. Today I am comfortable calling it a good Bordeaux, and maybe in 5-10 more years it becomes great, but then again maybe not.

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  • Pomerol night (Chicago, IL): A bit of an intractable wine, even though the quality was quite clear here. Next to the light and elegant 2000, this was more closed, especially due to a big dose of tannin on the finish. The fruit is present and fairly large-scaled, but it's the tannins here that push the fruit towards the background. Certainly more open than a 2005 red Burgundy, but I can't help but think that the vaunted 2005 vintage is a bit of a letdown. Maybe it'll come around? I'm not betting on it.

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  • From Coravin. Tannins still going strong but quite balanced after decanting in the glass for nearly an hour and when served alongside roast chicken on one day and venison on another.
    Best served at 18C (start decanting at 13C, it will warm up). Summer room temperatures are usually too high for this.
    This is excellent but falls short of heavenly expectation.
    Maybe it needs a few more years. Will try a longer decant when opening the bottle.

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  • Violets and plums. Medium red fruit, impeccably balanced

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  • I concur with my note from last July. This is in its early stages of its drinking window, but it needs extended decanting, (preferably all day or overnight,) but you will be richly rewarded. I am finding the right bank 2005s are starting to shine and this is no exception, and this is the best vintage of VCC drinking kicking the glorious 1990 well into touch. The nose is relatively primary but starts to come to life after an hour in the glass with aromatic wafts of ripe red and black berry fruits, cedar, and tobacco underpinned with burgeoning perfumed floral notes. It is already blasting out its Pomerol identity with an opulent blast of ripe fruit on the palate and a silky velvet mouthfeel. The finish still needs to shrug off some residual tannin, but is perfectly balanced and pushes past 60 seconds. Of course this will continue to develop, and will be otherworldly in a decade hence, but it is irresistible now.

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  • Medium faded ruby/purple; Red fruits, leather, higher acidity, drying fine tannins, nice, but not exciting after the Rostaing Cote Blonde. 2nd night, Light herbal character, some red cherry-soft plum, sandalwood; smooth, tangy mouthfeel, supple and sexy, less dry in the finish, really nice. 91 after opening, but the day after I liked this a bit more and give it 92. Blind Dirty Dozen TOC dinner at La Paella

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  • Brought to a restaurant and had little time to decant. Lovely smooth, opulent wine but feels very primary at the moment, not unlike many other 2005s. Feels like it needs 5+ years to hit its stride.

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  • Needs a 3+ hour decant now. Yes, more aging will help, but not past 5 years. Opens with some earthy/lesss aromas. Blows off after 2 + hours. Sandalwood, tobacco, dark cherry, etc. Nice winemaking; no excessive oak. Flavors are there and very harmonious. Touch bitter/acid that requires food to offset at this stage. Palate is amazing, and overall this needs food pairing and those who appreciates Right Bank Bordeaux.

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  • Velvety, purple fruit, very clean.

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  • Decant 1.5hr to bring the wine completely to life. Nose of chocolate, mushroom, coffee, with a tiny hint of vanilla. Overall, the nose is good, but not blown you off type. On the palate, the wine is completely amazing, layers of fruits, integrated tannin and super length. The wine is starting to enter its drinking window, highly enjoyable and should kept for next 5 to 10 years.

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  • Looking at other reviews I suspect that this has progressed in the last 18 months, and it is starting to creep into its early drinking window. This will continue to evolve and improve, but man it is something very special already. Muted ripe red berry fruits and cedar pervade with tobacco notes and a restrained youthful nose at this stage. However, it is in the palate that this moves into the higher dimensions and it is liquid velvet in the mouth. It displays exquisite balance with perfect precision. Likewise the finish is unwavering and subtlety pushes 60 seconds. On the back of this I'm going to buy a second case tomorrow so I can have the pleasure of drinking this without guilt every 6 months over the next 15 years! As stated this is still in evolvement and really needs a full day in the decanter to help it along. A post scrip; I had half a glass left over which was consumed the following day and it had improved further which bodes well for the future.

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  • Drunk with cheeses. Dark garnet all the way to the rim. A good nose of medium intensity black cherry, boiled beetroot, tobacco and ripe plum. The tannins imposed somewhat on the fruit, disturbing the balance and unsettling the palate. They still had a harsh bitter element to them so the wine did not feel smooth, nor did this settle over time. The tannins dominated the midpalate and while there was some length it was not a wine I could savour. This wine (case) has been stored perfectly from new, so my bottle did not agree with the notes of other recent drinkers. The wine gave the same impression over days 2-4, without improvement. Overall, my experience today was a bit underwhelming - I will try again in 5 years!!

    I tried another bottle on 08/25/2023 - unfortunately, very much the same experience. Also 92.

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  • Rating- 95
    Drink- 2015-2035

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  • What a wine. This is what Bordeaux is all about. This nose is just to die for. So sensual, so luscious. Pure silk in the mouth. Unbelievable lenght. This is really unresistable at the moment. If you have some in your cellar, don’t miss this window.

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  • Though this will continue to improve for years, it is hard to resist right now.

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  • Unwerfend. Leichtes Ziegelrot im Glas. Tolle Nase: schwarzfruchtig, Pflaumenmus, Zigarrenkiste, mediterrane Kräuter. Supersanftes Finish! 97 Punkte

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  • Needs a fairly long decant.

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  • Magnum. Silky, elegant, seamless and delicious. 94

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  • The color suggests this wine be a deep, dark & brooding wine, but it is not. Elegant, refined and yet powerful. The nose has cedar, smoke, mint and tobacco. The silken mouthfeel was initially similar notes to the nose, but after an hour or so, the wine was dominated by blackberries — and that was wonderful. Not a fruit bomb but an explosion of blackberry cobbler. Delicate and refined acid kept he wine delicate and approachable, though definitely still feels young. The finish went on forever. This wine seems to be just hitting its stride, and should drink well for 10+ years.

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  • Actually a corked bottle but only slightly so and only becoming noticeable after ca. 15 minutes. I PnP this and boy, was this impressive. It has the ripe fruit but also its singnature acidity and structure of 05. VCC doesn’t go for late picking and extraction and it suited them well in this vintage, so you could approach this now if you are a curious cat. This is a stellar, classic Pomerol in the making. Prime window will not start before 2025 is my guess. Wonderful! 96-97

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  • The wine tasted youngfull and vibrant after one hour double decant and wait inside the bottle for consumption 3-4 hours later. Classic Bordeaux style, a friend picked the year and country blind, he went to Left bank!

    I liked the wine and it paired nicely with food, Salmon and Pork Chops.

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  • Big, intense and precise but easily the most closed of all the vintage tasted. This has wonderful material underneath and it could be a 100-year wine. Don't even consider opening it for ten more years at least. 94+

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  • One of my WOTN at Ficofi Palais grand

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  • Delicious, spherical.

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  • Decanted for 4 hours. Did not budge. This is an excellent offering, incredibly balanced and with a long life ahead. Try next bottle in 3 years.

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  • Nearing it's drinking window but better in to try next bottle next year. 2 hours decanting. Coming together nicely. Dark Berries nose with a good texture. Very promising future.

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  • Lutefisk and BYO: Blind. dark berries, a hint of smoke, minerals, meaty; abundant tannin, high maturity to the fruit, violent structure, lots of stuffing, dark berries. Utterly promising. Guessed left bank.

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  • Ripe, voluptuous and welcoming. Floral, secondary aromatics jumping. Quite delicious.

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  • Very young still. Slow ox for 3 hours into wide decanter for 2 hours which needed. Nose of perfume with dark fruit and earth. Last glass was the best and where finish was prominent. Best in 3 years to 10 years.

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  • Delicious despite being tremendously young - strangely it was not too young to enjoy. It has a lovely bright, deeply perfumed nose of dark chocolate and berries. I love the intensity and concentration, but the acidity and balance allow this to be accessible now.

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  • Appearance: Bright and clear, it is medium ruby in color, with thin garnet rims and legs.
    Nose: Clean, with medium (+) intensity aromas of black fruit of cassis, blackberry, dark cherries and ripe plum, oak notes of cedar, sweet spice of mixed herbs, mineral notes of earth, kernel notes of chocolate, maturity notes of tobacco. The wine is developing.
    Palate: Dry with medium acidity, the wine has medium (+) tannin of ripe and velvety texture, medium alcohol, full body and medium (+) intensity flavors of black fruit of blackcurrant, blackberry and dark cherries, maturity notes of sweet tobacco, sweet spice of mixed herbs, oak notes of cedar. The wine has a medium (+) finish.
    Conclusion: Very good quality Pomerol which is still fairly young from the nose, with good intensity and complex aromas, though there are signs of development yet it is not demonstrating its full potential. On the palate it shows great elegance, well-balanced with a robust structure of full-bodied wine, good concentration and a fairly long finish as well. Overall it is not yet at its peak but showing the promising elements for a great wine, ready to drink now but benefit from further ageing of another 3-5 years.

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  • Still a baby. Tightly wound for most of the night, but at times showed some of its promising future. On the nose, there were ripe plum and blackberry, enveloped with sous bois, Provencal herbs, truffle, iron, and dark chocolate. Again though, it took some work to coax this from the glass. Velvety on the palate, with a full mouthfeel. Still has some edges to soften. Very impressive concentration. Could use a bit more freshness on the finish, but the flavors linger on nicely.

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  • Alfresco dinner w old wines and young - Princeton Wine Crew and special guest Jamie Leahy of Marston Vineyards (Chez Walker - Princeton, NJ): Last of the Bdx for the evening, this one contributed by Jamie. Slow-oxed for about 2 hours before drinking. My first experience with this wine.

    Inky purple color. Nose showed dark fruits, olive, truffles...Smooth palate of dark cherry, cassis, herbs, charcoal. Secondary notes of olives, licorice. Texture was really smooth - I think this was 80% Merlot... Full bodied and rich bdx. Long and layered finish.

    This is in a good spot now, though still showing more primary characteristics, guessing this will continue to evolve in the bottle for some time. Would be good to check in on this again in a few years

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  • Occasional dinner group: Riesling GG and Top Pomerol (@ Zarzo): Last red of the evening and unfortunately not so many notes. Classical bouquet with earthy flavors and black berries. Same on the palate. Firm acidity and healthy, powerful tannin. 94+ for tonight.

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  • Enjoyed Over lunch, after around 1 hour in the decanter. Dark cherry, truffle, mushroom, note of mint on the nose, velvet mouthfeel, great density, luxurious and rich Cabernet franc, tannins still there but smooth hinting at further potential and development to come. Med-long finish. Overall a very nice wine and a good vintage of VCC. However, I am not sure if this will ever rank alongside the great vintages of this estate.

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  • Silky, lush, polished and fresh, the wine is starting to take on secondary qualities with its truffle, rose, dark chocolate, earth, cherry, smoke and licorice essences. The tannins are so ripe now, you can drink this today, else, wait another 5 years for even more development.

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  • 2005 Right Banks, with an interloper from 2000 (Auckland, New Zealand): Purple - ruby hue, showing some age. Open-knit nose of plums, candy cane spice, that is certainly built on fruit. The palate confirms the impression of the aroma. Fruity, with a smidgin of oak. Faultless winemaking, clean and long finish and features a long finish.

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  • Straddling the fence between hedonistic and intellectual, the truffle, rose, violet, tobacco and dark plum nose gets you, holds you and makes you take another sniff before you sip. Full bodied, concentrated, silky, smooth and still young, there is still tannin to soften. But there is so much ripe fruit you can drink it today. But if you have patience, give it 5 to 10 more years and you’re going to be taste pure magic.

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  • VCC Masterclass with winemaker.
    More dense and heavy aromas here, more of dark fruit character. Sour cherry nose. Earthy with drying, more backward tannin. Give it at least another 10 years- 2005 was a vintage where “everything was given by nature” and the wine can be stored up to 50 years.

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  • A Matter of Taste: London Edition (Saatchi Gallery, Chelsea): Very rich and complex with quite a backward nose. Give it some more time to flourish.

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  • Tasted next to the 2006. The fruit on the nose seemed a bit darker, riper, with great depth again. On the palate much more backward and firm with a nice, long mineral finish. This needs a bit more time but is very promising. 94-95+

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  • This one needs some time to come around still very young. Tasted along side the 2004 and 2008. This one had noticeably more tannins from the french oak than the other two. At first blush, the 2004 was drinking great. Over a two hour period of sipping all three the 2005 came out to shine. I still think this needs way more time to develop, but should be a special wine if given enough cellar time.

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  • Tasted at the Tavern tonight.

    As compared to the 2005 Château La Conseillante, the Vieux Château Certan has a more muted nose but fruitier and juicier expression on the palate.

    The tannins are still formidable, and the texture presents a heavier body and darker fruits.

    Definitely going to age well for the next 20 to 30 years.

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  • Hospitaliers de Pomerol (Pomerol): Fairly closed on the nose revealing only glimpses of ripe dark fruit, cocoa, violet and some truffle. The palate matched. Big, dense and needs time to uncoil. Will be quite a wine.

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  • This keeps getting better and better. From start to finish, there is nothing out of place in this sensuous Pomerol. The truffle, black cherry, cocoa and floral nose, the layers of silky, sweet fruits and the opulent, polished, pure finish are a thing of beauty. I really like this wine and it's only starting to reveal its character.

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  • United Cellars Grand Bordeaux Tasting 2013 (Royal Automobile Club, Macquarie Street, Sydney): Ruby coloured. Medium plus intensity aromas of concentrated black fruit, slight perfumed top note. In the mouth savoury black fruit, massive palate, big tannins. Smooth but not quite right.

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  • A full bodied velvety wine that is loaded with fruit and that telltale 05 acidity.

    Lots of red and black fruit, very Merlot dominated at present. I didn't pick up any sense of terrior and after a couple hours some dry tannins began asserting themselves, but all in all very enjoyable

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  • A lush wine, with polished tannins, and a nice medium finish. There's a bit of spice and oak right out of the bottle that fades with air. This is ultimately lacking some freshness, complexity, and sense of place to be great. Think I might've had a hard time differentiating this from a California wine in a blind tasting.

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  • Still young, the wine needed a few hours of air before its beautiful array of fresh plum, chocolate, licorice, floral, dark cherry, earth and vanilla scents bloomed. Full bodied, polished, supple, round and rich, the tannins are pure silk and velvet. Give this another 5-8 years and you’ll be rewarded with a superb Pomerol.

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  • Truffle, earth, blackberry liqueur, forest floor and fresh picked flowers pop from the glass as soon it's poured. This rich, lush, polished, round wine is filled with black cherry, plum, spice and cocoa flavors. Elegance paired with chocolate sensuality is an apt descriptor for this beautiful Pomerol wine.

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  • Drinking beautifully already as the wine has very silky palate. Very expressive nose of flowers, crushed berries and limestone. Much more expressive than the 09 but not as profound. Francois Mauss also mentioned that comparing two wines of inner energy is quite fascinating, clearly favoring the 09.

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  • Shared with Wine School of Philadelphia. Double decanted. Dark red/blue, not completely opaque. Lavender, deep dark fruit. Beautiful aromatics. Chocolate cherry and earthy on the mid palate. Long. Lengthy. With Length. Elegant, with power and structure. Evolving. And built to last. A lovely, lovely wine. Wonderful.

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  • Ruby blood, deep core, Rich blackcurrant and toasty oak a sweet spice very ingaining nose, This wine has a rich opluent palate which has exellent balance of acidiy and tanins this is very colplex and powerful very sudtive and sexy VCC this is the best i have had.

    I can not keep my hands of the glass.

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  • Three Great Terroirs, Masterclass at Great French Fine Wine Encounter 2009 (The Landmark Hotel, London): -
    Eye: Dark red
    Nose: Floral…
    Palate: Much better on the palate. Vibrant, round and balanced, but to young…
    Finish: Very long and almost seductive.
    Decanted: 0 hr.

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  • 2005 Bordeaux- leftovers from WS Experience (SL Gallery): wild herbal nose, really yummy, interesting, rich yet great clarity of flavors, animal, vegetable, fruit, and mineral. tight tight cut off finish

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  • Ripe, round, rich, stylish and even sexy, this deep Pomerol is filled with spice, floral, chocolate and dark berry notes with hints of black raspberry. Full bodied, with velvety tannins, this is what Bordeaux offers in the best vintages.

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