3/11/24, 8:49 AM - I can confirm the CT community was well represented! I have only little experience with Tatasciore's wines and never had an old one, hence hard to judge. But from the structure this has easily 15-20 years of aging potential. This was perfectly good to go now if you like wines young and fresh - but if you can wait I would cellar this 10 years for peak performance.
3/11/24, 8:00 AM - Carefully pour the wine in a decanter to remove the sediment (ideally let the bottle standing upright a few hours beforehand), wash out the bottle and pour the wine back in. :)
3/11/24, 8:49 AM - :)
3/11/24, 8:45 AM - Could it be that Cave SA is selling this wine? ;) More than happy to be proven wrong - am a big fan of the Litwan range!
3/11/24, 8:01 AM - ha... an endless debate surely!
1/8/24, 11:54 AM - I feel you. But if it is of any help... sending one of the bottle to auction was the right call!
1/8/24, 11:53 AM - Indeed... but this was after the "official" tasting where we just opened a few more bottles for the fun of it... we were still thirsty :)
1/8/24, 11:51 AM - I think it's a close shot. Definitely agree for 2016, Studach on another level. And Unique definitely needs more time to fully evolve. The 2005 Unique is at its peak only now and a stellar wine. On the other hand Studach definitely crushed it with its fantastic 2010. For 2015 it's probably again Unique...
6/20/23, 7:58 AM - Yes agree, maybe early stage of premox. The others in the group did not pick up on this so still good to go, and it was still palatable overall - but leagues below the last 3 bottles or so which were as you describe much fresher.
12/24/22, 12:20 AM - I‘ve had 6 bottles over the last 12 months. Of those, 4 were perfect as you describe and 2 premoxed - maybe bad luck but still worrying. I‘ve also had 6 bottles of the 2015 in the course of 3 years and all of them were pristine.
12/24/22, 12:30 AM - @Decanting Queen: Thanks for the comment! seems like I‘m not alone here… question is was it vintage-specific or a wider issue?
12/22/22, 4:28 AM - Not specifically for the 2014. But since they're going for Bordeaux style I would say these wines do need 10-15 years to reach their optimal drinking window, so no rush in popping any bottles yet (unless you have a huge stack). If you do, I would generously decant for 2-3 hours.
12/19/22, 12:48 PM - Could be. But it was definitely not corked. The bottle was acquired immediately upon release and stored under perfect conditions in the same cellar since. If it was a low-quality cork or just due to any other bottle-specific impureness I would not count that as defective, just bad production practices. If you had better experiences lucky you - hope to get a chance to revisit this....
11/30/22, 11:13 AM - 93!! thanks for pointing this out - corrected.
12/1/22, 8:59 AM - Really hard to make a qualified comment here since 85% of all Krugs I ever had were at this tasting and also the only time I had 2008. Plus in a group tasting context hence only 1 glass per person (1/16 of the bottle) with limited time to revisit…. I will say this though: it‘s never wrong to have a stack of Krug, so you already win anyway, and reselling value has gone up dramatically for you. Best course of action I think is to give it another 3 years or so and check back in. I have bumped into other 2008s that are in a bad spot right now…
11/11/22, 2:16 AM - Really hard to judge from a walkaround tasting, but would bet definitely even better in 2-3 years.
10/14/22, 12:36 PM - Hey Remo, Great to hear from you - hope to bump noses into glasses with you again soon!Re Markus Ruch: Well, a raw potato just doesn't taste as good as a baked potato with proper seasoning... ;)
10/13/22, 3:52 AM - I did see you had a markedly better experience earlier this year, but with a 4h double-decant - maybe that did the trick as we were tasting right after opening and had only ~2min per wine. Or I was tasting from a bad badge? I had two bottles from the same source this year with consistent results. Bottles have been stored in perfect cellar conditions since acquisition immediately after bottling, so that was not the issue. In any case, I'm positive you would not have compared this bottle to one of the best examples of the vintage... :)
3/29/22, 11:25 AM - Pretty sure it will given how fabulously 82, 89 ans 90 and drinking today… just give it another 15 years :)
1/14/22, 6:07 AM - Hm interesting comment... to be honest I bought this because my wife had the 2015 a few weeks ago and was blown away - but all I could find on-line was the latest 2019 vintage which is the only chard from Maison Carrée I've had so far. Given the Burgundian style here I would assume 7-10 years of aging should be feasible. Will try to find myself some older bottles here, I'm really curious now!
1/14/22, 12:04 PM - Ah ! Happy to trade a 2019 against a 2017 if you like?
1/14/22, 6:01 AM - Kind of a slow reponse here, sorry for that... not industry, this was all part of a private collector's cellar :)
11/25/21, 8:33 AM - Thanks for the input - much appreciated! We weren't sure when it was bottled and the owner didn't know either...
11/25/21, 8:31 AM - Just poured it into a decanter to remove the sediment and it was good from the get go. Consumed over 1.5h or so... would in any case do a double-decant, but not much aeration needed.
10/8/21, 11:53 PM - Yes I saw you thought there was easily 5-10yrs left in the bottle you had… fortunately I had an outstanding bottle a couple of years ago too… :) I got one more to go, from a different badge however.
10/8/21, 11:48 PM - Haha :) Don‘t hold back, and if you do please let me know what you think - there‘s not much out there on this one…
9/22/21, 6:28 AM - I bought 12 bottles of this and first thought this was too much! Now I'm down to 6 and already start to worry this way way too little......
9/22/21, 11:19 AM - In the US maybe :)In Switzerland there is none (not even other vintages). I can find some in other Europen countries but I would be paying >$200 per bottle with shipping, import duties and all…
7/24/21, 11:32 PM - Lucky you - I‘m down to 1, that makes it a really tough call when to pop it!
6/30/21, 1:54 AM - Yup agree, and impossible to say what you could have unlocked with a proper decant. But at the same time you can argue that in a setting like this you want an equal playing ground for all and hence do decant seems most fair.
6/30/21, 1:51 AM - :)yup, it is a big privilege!
6/30/21, 1:47 AM - I have to be honest, Brio is not really by type of jam and I don't own any in my cellar - but if I did I would probably look to pop a bottle of the 2015 soon to check it out within its primary fruit phase, then the next in a year or two and then set the rest aside for another 3-5 years.
6/30/21, 1:40 AM - I think 2000 is just a notoriously late-aging vintage. Think more recent vintages are hopefully more approachable thanks to changes in wine-making practices and better climatic conditions. 2009s and 2010s are opening up, 2012 is drinking very well, 2014 coming soon, 2015 you can still catch in the early fruit phase and if you know where to look you can already pop some 2018 (-> Rauzan Ségla). Oh and before I forget, if you like older vintages 1998 and 2001 on the right bank and 1996 on the left are all in fabulous spots right now in my view.
6/30/21, 12:52 AM - Yup, wondering all the time... but I guess you could argue in big tastings like this you want an equal playing ground for all wines. But at the same time I'm convinced you could easily add a point or two for many of these wines if you were to properly decant them and enjoy them on their own.
6/30/21, 12:48 AM - Pls do and let me know what you thought on Thieriot vs Haven! I was refering to the same vintage (2018).
3/29/21, 12:11 PM - Thanks for the hint - excellent background info, copied all of it into my cellar app. Very much appreciated!
3/2/21, 6:21 AM - Uuuh that sounds like hersey! ;)Well on the Brio specifically I have to say I have scored it higher in the past (93) and I think it is actually fair value for money. I've tasted quite a few of Melka's wines in recent years and to your point, while fully aware that is very easy for me as a layman to take a sip and judge, I remain unimpressed overall and struggle to find wines that could justify 95 or more - which I would expect for the price bracket these are typically retailing in. Agree with you, Melka appears all over the place - but then again many are, just think of Thomas Rivers Brown... From Prichard Hill Colgin is the non-plus-ultra for me, but that is a different league. From the more direct peers I actually prefer the only "real" Prichard Hill cabs from Chappellet. Ultimately, it is a matter of taste and the Brand wines are absolutely fine and no one will ever blame you for serving one of those bottles. But my personal opinion is if you want to stock up on 2018 Prichard Hill, maybe go for Chappelet or Melanson from Pulido-Walker instead.
1/27/21, 2:11 AM - What are you waiting for then? ;)Let me know what you thought...
1/27/21, 2:10 AM - Defo try to get your hands on a 2003, you will not be disappointed. Would love to revisit the 2005 too. Had that a couple of years ago but felt pretty closed at that time.
1/5/21, 11:09 PM - Ouch!
12/15/20, 8:24 AM - Unfortunately I'm not entirely sure if this was decanted. This was part of a tasting with follow wine enthusiasts. All I can say if it was decanted, it wasn't for long. My gut would tell me give it 1-2h to smooth things out - but if no time also fine. There was a 4 course meal along the 10-12 bottles we tasted and the host tried to bring everything into the appropriate order, but since this was all double-blind within the theme "Wines from Italy" there was no conscious food pairing going on. From memory the Galatrona came somewhere middle of the pack which was probably somewhere around the ravioli course. I think given the power and intensity here this works very with fatty Italian food.
5/23/20, 5:29 PM - The question I was dreading... the table consensus was Sine Qua Non Grenache!!
12/15/20, 8:09 AM - Thanks for this... yes pretty impressive! Fortunately I did follow my own advice and am a happy owner of the 2016 ;)
12/10/20, 12:26 PM - Apologies for the late reply here... We actually had this along with a pasta with a cream sauce, grilled mushroom and fried bacon cubes. Worked very well. Any kind of red meat would fit I'm sure, but also veal. Don't quite see game / venison though. Probably too tannic and sweet for fish or seafood. Can also imagine this to work with certain types of cheeses (hard rather than cream cheese, cow rather than goat... thinking well aged, salty and savory cheeses). Lastly, why not try a bite of dark chocolate (70%+ cocoa) with it?
12/3/20, 10:03 AM - Thanks for the review. Quick one: did you decant this? what‘s your suggestion?
12/3/20, 8:09 PM - Thanks, really hepful! I‘ll go for a 3-4h decant then and will leave the remaining bottles rest...
12/10/20, 10:40 AM - Just keeping you in the loop here... annoyingly, bottle was corked.
12/3/20, 12:45 PM - My grandmother always used to say: Any Grange collector is a good collector. ;)Out of curiosity, what are your favorite vintages and which ones are drinking best today? Thansk!
12/3/20, 7:58 PM - Absolutely amazing, a million thanks for this! I have already binned (pun intended) my December wine budget and bought some 83s (my wife‘s vintage so always a good excuse there) and 93s. 71 not available currently over here but will keep an eye out at auctions...
12/3/20, 12:51 PM - Tough call. If you have alternatives then best to wait a bit longer. I think the 2013 big gun Napa cabs are pretty much undrinkable today and will need easily 5 more years to come around. This is nothing like that and much more approachable, but not yet at its peak.
11/13/20, 6:35 AM - Right on! If you find a spare minute would love to hear your feedback...
11/11/20, 11:06 AM - My grandmother used to say: Great palates taste alike. I haven't tasted any 2018 first growths yet, but couldn't agree more - Rauzan and Calon-Ségur along with Pichon Baron were my top picks from the barrel samples.
11/10/20, 8:24 AM - Hoping so as well. The barrel sample was impressive a year ago! Maybe just a bad bottle from a bad barrel from a bad lot?
10/7/20, 1:37 AM - Thanks for this - never thought of that but will most definitely try...
10/6/20, 7:22 AM - Greetings from your basement! Would you mind bringing me a glass of water? Also - is there a bathroom?
9/24/20, 2:39 AM - Thanks for this, sound fantastic - thinking about popping a bottle for my wife‘s birthday... any advice on decanting?
9/24/20, 6:34 AM - Many thanks for this! I'm lucky enough to have a handful of bottles left so I can open one every 5-10 years or so :)Will proceed exactly as you recommended...
9/15/20, 11:55 PM - Thanks for this. I'm a big fan of the VCC 2001 - need to try Angélus 2001 as well!
8/31/20, 6:54 AM - I am very sure that would have been the case - also if we had the time to follow each wine over the course of an evening I'm sure we would have discovered more layers and complexity in many cases. We squeezed all of them into 2h - obv. by far too little time to award all the attention to each wine that it would deserve.But alas these were the ground rules in this horizontal. Every wine was treated equally, P&P and off you go. I mentioned that in an earlier reply to another comment -> I do hope I get to re-visit as many of them as possible in a more dedicated setting...
8/31/20, 6:50 AM - Absolutely agree. I think had we given every wine the time it deserved and followed it over an evening after a proper double-decant, my scores could have been higher - or even a lot higher for some. But then again always a tough call in a big tasting. This way you can argue all were treated equally. For recent vintages P&P is the best way to go for horizontal, in my view. For older vintages I agree a double-decant is definitely not wrong - but in the end I'm just happy I was lucky enough to participate... and rest hoping that I can re-taste as many of them as possible with more time. Thanks for the comment!
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